At times, justice is inconspicuous.
From Fox News Latino:
“After opponents of the statute told her that it will lead to racial profiling and prolonged detentions of Latinos, a judge is mulling arguments over whether she’ll let the most contentious section of Arizona’s immigration enforcement law take effect.
The law’s opponents are trying to thwart a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that will let police enforce a requirement that officers, while enforcing other laws, question the immigration status of those they suspect are in the country illegally.
Lawyers for Gov. Jan Brewer said at a court hearing Tuesday that the law’s opponents haven’t shown that enforcement of the questioning requirement will lead to racial profiling or prolonged detentions.
U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton didn’t make a ruling on the request and didn’t say when the requirement could take effect.”
As much as it pains me to admit, Governor Brewer makes a valid point — which makes two days in a row that I’ve agreed with that desert diabla.
Still, if opponents of Arizona’s SB 1070 want to argue that the law leads to discrimination against Latinos and persons of color, they must provide evidence to support the allegation. That a law may open a door to future abuses doesn’t require that it will lead to abuses. The government cannot block efforts to enforce the law on the basis that such enforcement might lead to an abuse, just as you cannot be arrested for pre-crime.
Also, by demanding opponents provide evidence that her law leads to discrimination toward Latinos, Governor Brewer utilizes the same type of argument opponents of voter ID laws use when they demand evidence that voter fraud poses a significant threat to the electoral system. What’s good for the goose is good for the governor.
I say let the law go into the effect, but let’s study its aftermath closely. Should instances of discrimination and other abuse arise, then the opponents of the controversial measure will stand on firmer ground. Justice will shine bright as the Southwestern sun.
Touché, Governor Brewer.
About Hector Luis Alamo, Jr.
“As much as it pains me to admit, Governor Brewer makes a valid point — which makes two days in a row that I’ve agreed with that desert diablo.”
Which is still one less than a stopped clock. I think you’re fine.
Let the data speak for itself.
Would she just go away??? que JODIDA!
some people are so ignorant they need to travel the country more there are all types of illegal aliens. it’s not just latinos. I am from New York there are illegal aliens from all over the world in nyc. The ignorance needs to stop already. I am over these Hicks talking about the stuff they don’t know. the woman looks and acts like the devil
#dislike
If you want to represent Latinos, then tell both sides of the story. Because there are those of us who don’t support illegal immigration. Not all Latinos disrespect US borders and law. If I lived in Arizona, I wouldn’t mind being asked for my ID every now and then, so long as officers were respectful. It is not discrimination to target Latin people because Arizona borders a Latin country that is between USA and many other Latin countries.
It would be discrimination if they treated me disrespectfully, despite being a US citizen.
Sad shes giving Arizona a bad name
This is the real world and we have immigration laws. Just enforce the laws that are already on the books.
If Arizona bordered China, then they would target Asians. If it bordered Yemen, then they would target Middle easterners. Why is it a shock that they are concerned about Latin immigrants when they border a Latin country that all other Latin South and Central American countries residents must pass through to enter USA?
Remember what Franklin said about liberty and security: “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Hector: Who’s giving up liberty and security? That quote is so often taken out of context, it’s becoming nauseating. That’s like saying Bush should not have instituted steps to combat terrorism after 9/11 by creating DHS and reorganizing the various federal agencies.
Yes, I am saying that.
So you would be ok being stopped by police based on your appearance? As long as they treat you respectfully? How is it respectful to even stop someone on that kind of arbitrary reason?
What if it happens to you everyday by different patrol cops? What if it causes you to be late to work? Still ok?
What about legal residents? You gotta carry the green card to go walk your dog? You know how detrimental it is to lose that kind of document?
How is it not discrimination to use ethnicity as a factor for ascribing blame to a crime?
You anti-immigration Latinos disgust me. Im so glad that even though I was able to get papers I didn’t become stuck up to think im better than those who weren’t as fortunate. Bet if you were in their shoes you’d be singing a different tune. Face it, you got lucky that you were born on this side of the rio or that u were given a chance to apply for papers or that you are cuban and the us government gave u preferential treatment. We need immigration reform that rewards innovation, excellence, sacrifice, loyalty, and hard work and punishes criminals, gang members, narcos, etc.
The one conversation this nation has never had about 9/11 is this: did the policies in place fail or did people fail to use they policies that already existed? We created a new cabinet level department, made a bunch of rules about shoes and drinks that seem to just get people annoyed and children and old people effectively molested and based on what evidence that we needed anything new?
The Norwegians have spent a year trying to figure out what they could have done better after a lunatic offed 77 of his fellow citizens. Their conclusion? Don’t change a thing, just do your damn job better.
There have already been a few cases of american born citizens of hispanic background deported because they did not have documentation or in some cases state ID was not sufficient information for the arresting officer. It’s plain and simple these law are racist because demographic of citizens is changing and is not going to be majority white anymore. Please some people in this country can’t stand the fact that a black man was voted in as President. The issue of illegal/legal is just a farce, let’s just face it there are part of this country where hatred for others where because color, race, religion has not changed in over 200 years and they want to keep it that way.
There’s a quote from baseball that aptly describes nativist sentiment toward the undocumented: “He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.”
Having been born a citizen of the United States was pure luck for me, as it is for everyone. We’re not up in heaven waiting for the right place and time to enter the world. So I don’t look down on any undocumented American brought here at a young age by their parents, because it could’ve just as easily been me.
And when I see the determination and vitality they carry with them, I’m inspired. As an American, I want there to be more Americans like them. Thus, why I fight for their inclusion into this great, ongoing project we call “America.”
Why is Brewer against people who were brought here as children? They are innocent in this matter.
desert diabla is right!
@David Gonzalez: Glad you came over with papers. You did it the right way, and no I’m not anti-immigration. That is where the division begins when you can’t see the clear line between legal and illegal.
True, Lee. But then you yourself can’t seem to make the distinction between an undocumented 20-something who came here when they were 6 and an undocumented 20-something who came here last week.
I will say it here: I’m all for rounding up every last undocumented person who either snuck into the country after the age of 18 or overstayed their visa after the age of 18. If you make a decision as an adult, you must face the consequences of that decision.
Hector: I think we have some room for agreement.
Because the problem is not with Anglos, the problem is with illegal Mexicans and others that are involved in fraud, gangs, drugs…I can’t understand why so many Latinos are OK with lawlessness?
Insensible , inhumana, racista, ………………
If you deport all illegal immigrants, what about the ones with us citizen children? Will you deport us citizens? Or will you split up families and saturate the already burdened foster care system?
Why is it so hard for most of you to see that those who draw a hard line on illegal immigration just want our laws respected. It has nothing to do with racism, with being a bigot, with hating Mexicans, or “Hispanic/Latinos” (whatever artificial identity you want to use). This is about how we, the American people, can’t afford to continue to pay for the millions of uninvited guest we have been bestowed with. Come on… how many of you have had an uninvited guest in your home? You know the one… the one who shows up unexpected and takes advantage of your hospitality. There’s even a word in spanish that I’m sure you’re all familiar with… “Encajoso.” I bet your grandparents and parents all taught you that word. Who doesn’t know someone who fits that bill. I’ve met plenty in my life. There’s also a saying in spanish that says “Es una cosa la confianza, y es otra cosa el encanche.” It’s bad enough they thumb their noses at our laws, but then they start asking for entitlements? No muchachitos! Ya basta el encanche. No es justo que sigan siendo encajosos! Our immigration laws are not being enforced by the federal government nor are they being respected by foreign nationals who are here illegally. You can’t deny that foreign nationals are taking advantage of our broken system and this free for all has got to stop. There is no doubt that the Arizona Law is driven by anti-StopTakingAdvantageOfUs sentiment. Nothing more, nothing less.