Republicans claim the sky is falling.
As Talking Points Memo reports:
“The GOP platform committee adopted language on Tuesday supporting states that have passed voter ID and proof of citizenship laws. The citizenship amendment, proposed by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), would support laws that make voters prove their citizenship before they are allowed on the voter rolls.
‘I think it’s important that the Republican Party stand firmly behind the principle that we verify citizenship. There are a lot of other states that would like to move in this direction, and this platform will give them a boost in doing so,’ Kobach said.”
The amendment itself reads like something written by Chicken Little:
“We support state laws that require proof of citizenship at the time of voter registration to protect our electoral system against a significant and growing form of voter fraud. Every time that a fraudulent vote is cast, it effectively cancels out the vote of a legitimate voter.”
Notice how the GOP describes a “significant and growing” threat to the electoral system. If the Republicans truly believe that voter fraud at the polls has grown rampant, then what are they to do with the facts?
From azcentral.com:
“A new nationwide analysis of more than 2,000 cases of alleged election fraud over the past dozen years shows that in-person voter impersonation on Election Day, which has prompted 37 state legislatures to enact or consider tougher voter ID laws, was virtually non-existent.
The analysis of 2,068 reported fraud cases by News21, a Carnegie-Knight investigative reporting project, found 10 cases of alleged in-person voter impersonation since 2000. With 146 million registered voters in the United States, those represent about one for every 15 million prospective voters.”
There’s also this from Huff Post Latino Voices:
“In a stipulation agreement signed [in early July], state officials [in Pennsylvania] conceded that they had no evidence of prior in-person voter fraud, or even any reason to believe that such crimes would occur with more frequency if a voter ID law wasn’t in effect.”
I could’ve dedicated most of this commentary to arguing against the GOP’s voter ID plank, but why bother? The evidence speaks for itself: voter fraud is the non-issue in 2012. That’s a fact, and as John Adams noted, “Facts are stubborn things.”
Now, while I understand the sentiment behind such a requirement — the right to vote being the most sacred license of U.S. citizenship — pushing for a requirement that would do more to undermine American democracy than uphold it seems to be an absurd proposal. As a true blue American, I believe in the maxim that it’s better to allow 10 guilty people to walk free than allow one innocent person to suffer, and if the evidence is to be believed — what else can we do with evidence? — voter ID laws allow 10 innocent citizens to suffer just to nab one non-citizen.
About Hector Luis Alamo, Jr.
@ Maria Lupita Rodriguez – you are a fucking shit stain on society get the fuck out of our country if you don’t share the same values. Stop partaking of the fruit bared by hard working US citizens who help fuel this economy while your illegal friends drain the whole damn system.. Get real every legal citizen should have the right to vote and sometimes ya we feel there is biased when it comes to voting for dems. I mean shit Obama got 95% of the black vote just for being black!! if that isn’t biased idk what is!! I don’t vote for someone based off of skin color, what the candidate will do for me, or gut feeling I vote for someone based off of facts and the individual resume and personal ideals based in american values. You obviously have no moral compass and that’s why we have corrupt ass chicago politics running the nation at this moment!
Well mario if the GOP was running the nation your job availability and overall security would be Greater. Sounds to me like they’re on your side as much as your own latino counterparts would like you to think otherwise.
U ass deleting my posts because you don’t agree with them even though they raise legitimate points go back to school you hack
This is posted on a latino based site and the reason your degrading the statements and legislation purposed by the republican leaders is because your afraid of your friends being deported for being illegal. And voter fraud should be an important issue for all AMERICANS because as the article posted “We support state laws that require proof of citizenship at the time of voter registration *to protect our electoral system*” instead of understanding this part of the statement it seems you’ve completely ignored and gone even further as to politicize the issue by making it seem like republicans are on some sort of witch hunt. And if someone is here illegaly they are guilty of comminting a FEDERAL offense so don’t talk like were targeting some sort of innocent group their here ILLEGALY how hard is that to understand you piece of shit!! spreading your bullshit demogogary and with no accountability but to this latino based sites administration that is likely majority democrats. When i do something illegal in my own country i either go to jail or pay a fine. I don’t say oh they’re targeting hard working americans just trying to get to work or put food on the table. I pay the damn fine go to court and settle the issue. You fucking illegals and your enabling counterparts want to have your cake and eat it too not having to adhere to all the same laws us natural born citizens have been adhering too all our lives!! And why don’t u give examples for states where the problem is more prevelant like Texas California or Florida. Your slant is sickening and obvious seeing as you come from chicago you’re likely to be all up Obamas ass anyway… Understand the situation before you write an article on the subject you moron. Or at least present multiple facets of the situation you fear mongerer ur illegal latino friends don’t belong here because they are breaking the law plain an simple and if their afraid of being screened well then that just means they know they’re breaking the law…
Well mario if the GOP was running the nation your job availability and overall security would be Greater. Sounds to me like they’re on your side as much as your own latino counterparts would like you to think otherwise.
Whats funny is you all are talking about rezoning and even stated they targeted urban areas representatives from the democratic party are the ones who zone those inner city districts to get the black, and poor vote along with not having to worry about having many opposing viewpoints in that district. Democrats are the worst about that! That’s why we have representatives like Sheela Jackson Lee D-Houston because she worked to rezone the district and she has been the incumbent for multiple elections now even though she hasn’t necessarily been doing a good job.
if one needs id to purchase alcohol, fill out a job application, buy a home, why not vote? Voting is much more important than buying beer.
Yea right. Id should be required
Yeah you get your facts from leftist and center left sources they always agree with your City College of NY style freshman editorials.
The reason the left is so against voter ID is because they know that if ID was checked that would squelch a great number of their constituents that would vote fraudulently. For example: illegal aliens, dead people, cartoon characters, those who vote multiple times…we know all the scams. How do you think Democrats win elections in the first place?
Naturally socialists are going to cry racism and say that old people and poor teens and immigrants are turned away. It’s the misery game they play. Hell, there’s even been talk of Democrats wanting 16 year olds to vote.
I think the voting age should be raised to 21 for men and women who are legal citizens. If it was up to BL they would also have non citizens and the undocumented vote. Why do you think they are so against rational voter ID laws? Because BL knows that illegals will 100% vote for the Democrat party.
Numbers, Mario. Show me the numbers. I don’t care what you believe; I want the facts.
Well Mario, if the GOP had their way, YOU being a Latino (I’m assuming you are) would not be allowed to vote, either. Only white males would be allowed to, and rich ones at that.
And it’s weird b/c every time I vote I have always had to show an ID. Soo….
If you want people to have an ID in order to vote, make the government pay for the ID.
Because it’s about $50 people don’t have to spend and it also takes a full day at the DMV to get one, which a lot of people cannot afford to take a day off from work.
One state (can’t remember which) said they would mail them out for free. That should be the policy. Logical and fair to all. Everyone who is legally able I vote gets the opportunity.
I just received my pollsite info which hasn’t changed in 12 years living at this address. This year they decided to re-zone and changed the school where I vote mhm ~.~
NYC all got re-zoned do to the census. I have a different polling place too and I live at the same place.
And Vikki gets the GOP scam immediately they looked for folks most likely not to have a car. College kids, minorities and seniors in the inner city, even the Penn GOP judge said he approved this although, ” there were hardly any cases of voter fraud ” always a new GOP way to cheat when they know people aren’t buying thier nonsense!
I think this Voter ID issue is crap. There is no issue. They just want to keep the poor from voting for Obama.
And they targeted people who are urban , don’t drive ( no drivers license) , etc but yet in most of these states you can’t se a state issued college ID but can use a hunting license? Stbs!
No Vikki, we want to keep illegal aliens and non citizens voting for Obama. And if illegals could vote they would vote in a heartbeat – and we know they would vote for Obama. Big difference. We also want to make sure Union goons and Acorn like institutions don’t vote twice or more times because they would if they could get away with it. That’s what it is about.
No Vikki, we want to keep illegal aliens and non citizens voting for Obama. And if illegals could vote they would vote in a heartbeat – and we know they would vote for Obama. Big difference. We also want to make sure Union goons and Acorn like institutions don’t vote twice or more times because they would if they could get away with it. That’s what it is about.
If an illegal alien could get away with voting in the election you know they would! Don’t try to deny it because you know this is true and you know that all o you see nothing wrong with this because they would always vote for an Obama and Obama is your man! We know your sneaky ways.
If an illegal alien could get away with voting in the election you know they would! Don’t try to deny it because you know this is true and you know that all o you see nothing wrong with this because they would always vote for an Obama and Obama is your man! We know your sneaky ways.
Weigh the risks and the benefits of committing voter fraud: on the one hand, there’s swaying the election by one, measly vote; on the other, there’s five years imprisonment and a $10,000 fine.
Half of the eligible voters in this country don’t vote, so what makes you think a non-citizen would risk anything just to add one drop to the bucket? I’d like to take a guess: irrational fear.
Weigh the risks and the benefits of committing voter fraud: on the one hand, there’s swaying the election by one, measly vote; on the other, there’s five years imprisonment and a $10,000 fine.
Half of the eligible voters in this country don’t vote, so what makes you think a non-citizen would risk anything just to add one drop to the bucket? I’d like to take a guess: irrational fear.
Hey, many illegals do a lot of “illegal” things like partake in running scams, gangs, drug business, and identity fraud, so they are not going to stop there, even if there are penalties envolved – voter fraud is just part of their bag o tricks – stop hiding the obvious, everyone knows this has been going on for ages. The left knows it and looks the other way.
Hey, many illegals do a lot of “illegal” things like partake in running scams, gangs, drug business, and identity fraud, so they are not going to stop there, even if there are penalties envolved – voter fraud is just part of their bag o tricks – stop hiding the obvious, everyone knows this has been going on for ages. The left knows it and looks the other way.
Non-issue? At least one judge has been prosecuted for voter fraud. It’s estimated that 2 million people have either moved or died without removing their names from the voter registry. You cannot be serious.
Lmaooooooooooooo Hector are you sure you live in the U.S.?? I no longer have any faith in this country’s voting system, everything is corrupt. Wake up!
I missed th part about people suffering. You need an id to buy alcohol, cigarettes, fly, return merchandise in some stores, apply for gov’t assistance, register your car, registered business, buy a house, rent an apartment, co-sign loan, register for school, get a library card,…etc. Stop playing, this is a non issue because those that refuse to produce identification at probably not eligible to vote in the U.S. There is no other valid excuse. Sorry.
BTW- voter fraud includes Republicans.
LOL! It’s funny to watch a few people bemoan a crisis that does not exist. They don’t even realize that they are supporting structural inequality with their ignorance. Voter fraud of this nature does not exists. Let me repeat that, since the article was not enough for a few of you: voter fraud of this nature DOES NOT EXIST. These ID laws have a very insidious rationale guiding them. Too bad a few of you are still oblivious to that.
Who cares about numbers. You want to vote, show ID. You want to buy beer? Show some ID, when asked. Want a job, show ID. Want to pick up a package at UPS or USPS? Show ID. Want to fly? Show ID. Get pulled over by LEOs? Show ID. Want a marriage license? Show ID. Want to claim a lottery winning over $600? Show ID and your SSN. Want to rent an apartment or get a mortgage? Show ID. Want your claim your inheritance? Show ID. Want to tour the White House? Show ID. Got an invite to attend a presidential dinner? Submit copies of ID and SSN to the SS, and make sure you have ID to enter the WH compound. Want to enter a government building? Show ID. And so on and so on and so on. So fellow Latinos….Wanna vote? SHOW SOME ID!!!!
@Nick Baez: Yeah, sure, voter fraud does not exist here as it doesn’t exist in elections in Latin America and other parts of the world. Keep believing it!!